tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748362830077260120.post8835014571772670455..comments2023-06-22T00:57:11.689-07:00Comments on NT Textual Criticism: Bias against the PAmr.scrivenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10295661257329405324noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748362830077260120.post-19996719844663087052011-02-21T11:12:27.721-08:002011-02-21T11:12:27.721-08:00I believe we are in agreement here, but just to cl...I believe we are in agreement here, but just to clarify: there is no direct evidence that lectionaries were being used prior to the 5th century. What Burgon asserted was that the nine verses had been in the lectionary as long as it had been in use; the word 'early' modifying not the church itself, but its use of the lectionary.The White Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748362830077260120.post-2162382592177025052010-12-14T07:54:09.615-08:002010-12-14T07:54:09.615-08:00You refer to point 5. above, "This reading, a...You refer to point 5. above, <i>"This reading, according to Burgon goes all the way back to the earliest of times in the Christian Church. "</i><br /><br />You are right in contrasting Burgon's stated position re: the patristic evidence with Boyd's assertion. <br /><br />However, while the specific reading of the PA on Oct 8 may not have been implied, Burgon certainly thought it was authentic to John's Gospel, and presumably, if every part of John was read on occasion in the earliest underground churches, then this story would also have been told, although not with clock-like regularity as with the later formal Lectionary system. <br /><br />Its hard to imagine Burgon not believing and willingly assenting to the gist of Boyd's statement, since he defended the passage vigorously.<br /><br />On the evidence of Didymus, he may be the earliest identified writer that skeptical method would give with confidence, but the total sum of patristic evidence, when other earlier writings are included, such as the Apostolic Constitutions and the indirect statements of Tertullian, seems to suggest a date much earlier than the mid 3rd century. Didymus himself seems to take the story for granted, as arriving from antiquity.<br /><br />peace<br />NazarooNazaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03584331774685466296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748362830077260120.post-9820883661910813122010-12-13T18:18:09.894-08:002010-12-13T18:18:09.894-08:00No. What Burgon said was,
"In all her Patriar...No. What Burgon said was,<br />"In all her Patriarchates, as far back as the written records of her practice reach, —and they reach back to the time of those very Fathers whose silence was felt to be embarrassing,—the Eastern Church has selected nine out of these twelve verses to be the special lesson for October 8."<br /><br />Burgon was referring to the period prior to the first mention of the PA by a Greek commentator in the 12th century--but certainly not any farther back than Didymus the Blind, a 4th century writer who was recently discovered to have mentioned the woman taken in adultery.The White Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.com